It can be the only explanation as to why our food is so much better and flavorful today. I am ready to accept my Nobel Prize for medicine/physiology now. You can learn about how to nominate me here.
I bring this all up because on the day I made the following marshmallow pie (that doesn't taste like much) was the day that Twins pitchers and catchers reported to spring training. Think about it. It makes perfect sense. Even if it doesn't, I'm going with the idea. If you don't see the connection, you're probably not thinking about it enough... or maybe you're one of those genetic hold-overs who can't yet taste bitter and sour... weirdo.
| Go Twins! |
Preparation
So... marshmallow pie. It was a little tough deciding what to make this time around. Last time, I made mock apple pie, which was a fun experiment and that was good enough that I made it a second time. As you can see, the second page of the Pies & Desserts section also has a rhubarb pie recipe, that is a custard pie. I really like rhubarb custard pie, so much so that it is one of the pies that I make the most frequently, using my mom's (great grandmother's?) recipe. But as it isn't remotely rhubarb season, I decided to pass on that one. That, and the fact that we are in the middle of marshmallow season, I needed to use up the marshmallows we recently picked from the mallow orchard last week. So marshmallow pie, it is.![]() |
| C'mon Mrs. Minnie, don't do us wrong. |
My biggest concern about the recipe is how marshmallows may have changed throughout the decades. There are so many new additives and ingredient substitutions, I was a little unsure whether or not today's marshmallows would behave like Minnie's marshmallows did.
| How much corn syrup, modified food starch, etc. were in the marshmallows of 1951? |
I suppose I didn't need to worry too much though, because if marshmallows don't melt when people want to make s'mores and rice crispy bars, they would buy them.
Anyway, here are our ingredients for the day:
| Should be easy as... well... pie. |
So first thing we need to do is to make the graham cracker crust. Graham crackers go in the food processor with the butter.
| C'mon crackers, crush! |
After I dispatched the reluctant graham crackers (Why won't you break down evenly? Why is my life so hard?), I put the butter and crumb mixture into a pie plate. I was a little concerned because there didn't seem to be enough butter and the mixture seemed pretty dry and crumbly. There was also a lot of crumb mixture. But we need to follow the recipe, so we'll do the best we can. Sarah has much more experience with graham cracker crusts than I do, as she's been making me birthday cheesecakes for 9 years (best birthday tradition ever), so I didn't feel really confident about pressing the crust together. I did seem to remember hearing something about pressing the crumbs into shape with a glass though, so I gave it a shot.
| Though I'm no longer a Teamster, I'm proud to have been one. Solidarity forever! |
The crumbs were dry enough though, that this didn't work so well, so I improvised.
| This worked reasonably well. |
Into the oven the crust went, and though it was thick and crumbly, it looked pretty good.
| Look how clean our stove top is! Let's pretend that this is how it looks all the time! |
Dance Break
About this time, A Prairie Home Companion came on. Though he is a Minnesota institution, I don't have a whole lot of time for Garrison Keillor nor that show. So it was time to put some music on. Because it was the start of spring training, and we're dreaming about spring, I decided to put some latin music on. Putumayo is great stuff.
| Sarah and I can dance like that, but we're self-conscious about it, so you'll have to take my word for it. |
So now your instructions are to listen to the music while you read the remainder of this blog post.
The music immediately got the boys dancing and in their natural blurry state.
| James Blurry Olson and Thomas Wigglemonkey Olson |
GAME ON!
Unfortunately, I only had twenty big marshmallows, so I had to take some from the "trail mix" that Thomas had brought home from pre-school. Fifteen mini marshmallows are the same as one big marshmallow, right? Accuracy is of utmost importance here. So we melt marshmallows with the milk and then add the chipped chocolate.
| No, James, you can't have a taste. It won't taste good, and we need all the flavor we can get. Remember, we have evolved taste buds. |
| An oddly satisfying process. |
Lastly, we pour, and then let the marshmallow mixture set in the refrigerator.
| I totally did this without making a mess. |
| Yes, Sarah, you may have some lickins. |
| Da-daa! |
| Layers? Strata? |
Tasting and Reaction
My willing guinea pigs were Sarah and James. James was particularly excited about the idea of marshmallow pie.
| Chomp! |
James – Yum! It smells
like marshmallows.
Sarah – What are you tasting?
James – Mostly the marshmallow, but a bit more the chocolate.
He then expressed confusion where the marshmallows are
Sarah – It kind of reminds me of a s'more. It also kind of reminds me of those powdered
hot chocolate mixes with the marshmallows in them. It seems like a waste of a cup of whipped cream though.
Me – I think you said that before.
Sarah- *laughs* Oh yeah,
was that for the carrot mold salad?
Sarah – James, do you like the pie?
James – Yeah.
Sarah – What was your favorite pie?
James – This one. This is
the best pie I ever had.
Sarah – Is this better than the pie we had last fall with the
eyeballs? [from the Pie-Off]
James – No. Too silly.
Sarah – So this pie is serious?
James – This is my favorite pie.
Sarah – I think you should market this to Betty’s Pies. They’re a North Shore tradition!
This is an inside joke on our part. We like Betty's Pies about as much as we like A Prairie Home Companion. If you want pie up on the north shore, go to the Rustic Inn Cafe instead.
Me – It’s marshmallowy… and sweet… and kind of that’s about
it.
Sarah – I think you’re right in that there is too much graham
cracker crust.
Me – As crumbly as the crust was, it’s holding together
relatively well. But yeah, it is a
little thick in places.
Sarah – It might be good with a more solid layer of melted
chocolate on the bottom. Especially
since it separates a little, you’d have three separate layers.
Me – It needs more chocolate. It seriously needs more chocolate. I can actually taste the chocolate for once
though, as opposed to some of the other recipes. Instead of one square of chocolate though,
I’d maybe use three or four squares.
Sarah – So this is something you’d make again?
Me – Probably not for us, but it’s not bad.
Sarah – So maybe a layer of chocolate on the bottom and a layer
of chocolate on the top.
Me – It’s rather better than I expected. Though there is far more generic sweet than
flavor, it’s not bad at all. I do have a
pretty substantial pile of graham cracker crumbs left on my plate.
Sarah – It’s pretty sweet.
Maybe that’s where more unsweetened chocolate would help.
Me – Yeah, I think it’s a good thing this didn’t use
sweetened chocolate. That’d just be
overload. So on a scale of one to ten,
where would you put this?
Sarah – On a scale of all pies?
Ever? In existence?
Me – Sure.
Sarah – I mean, it’s not a pie that I’d specifically seek out to
eat. That said, it’s taking a lot of
willpower to keep from eating and eating and eating it.
Me – I’d agree with that.
Sarah – I was just thinking of some of the Pie-Off pies, and
it’s definitely better than some of those.
Me – That’s pretty high praise. I don’t know that it’s so good that I would
plan on making this for us again. There
are plenty of pies that I like more.
Sarah – Right.
James – Every time you make a pie now, we should have lots
and lots of marshmallows. Marshmallow pie.
You should make more marshmallow pie.
Of all of the pie in the whole wide world, let’s have this one.
*he continues to chant, “Of all of the pies in the whole
wide world, of all of the pies in the whole wide world…” and then kind of skats to himself while
working on his puzzle.
Me – I guess I’d give it a solid five. It’s not bad, it’s not great. I’d take a good fruit pie or a custard pie
over this pretty much every time.
Sarah – I’d say four or five.
So there are some serious issues with the pie. The flavor is very one-dimensional, that is sweet. There is almost no chocolate flavor at all. There is too much graham cracker crust that doesn't hold together particularly. I think that Sarah is right in that it would benefit from a good layer of chocolate melted on the bottom, or perhaps a rich chocolate mousse. But all that said, the pie isn't bad. I can't say that I was particularly excited about making a marshmallow pie, but it was easily better than expected. I'm not sure I would go and make it again, but James does think it is the best pie in the world, so we'll see.
Next time: Norwegian Dishes!

The only time I preferred Betty's over the Rustic Inn were when I lived 5 minutes from Betty's in Two Harbors and it was SO CONVENIENT to get my takeout & pie fix. Rustic Inn was further away, but they did have better pie.
ReplyDeleteDid you listen to the game last night? I was thrilled to hear that Berrios got the start. I've had my eye on him since he was drafted. He's talented and he's got drive, and it seems like he's got heart, too. And he also seems kind of like an awkward kid, which is endearing.
I just don't understand why so many people love Betty's Pies. The Heavy Table did a pie tasting/contest a couple years ago and totally panned the pie they got from Betty's. I have to believe that part of the reason why people like Betty's is simply because of the location. They have a great time hiking through the northwoods, enjoy the views of the lake, and all that positivity rubs off on the pie.
ReplyDeleteI sure did listen to the game. I missed the first half inning due to class, but I had a big grin on my face as I drove home. With putting James to bed, I wasn't able to listen to the game very closely, but it was great to have it on. I can't say that I know much about Berrios aside from that he may still be a year or two from going north after spring training, but I'll take your word for it on him though. I'm personally rooting for Alex Meyer. I think he's due and from what I understand, he's got the stuff to be a pretty serious asset to the rotation.
Hey, now that you two are down in the Cities, you need to come to our 5th Annual Pie-Off in September or October. After Livejournal, Facebook, and assorted blogs, I'd love to meet you.
Betty's is such an institution. I think people get all nostalgic when they remember the little shack with the outhouse by the river (ew) and trips up to the north shore. It hasn't been that shack for a while now, but perhaps the nostalgia has transplanted to the swanky new building with the fancy-ass indoor plumbing.
DeleteWhen many major leaguers get their deal or get drafted, their reactions are somewhat underwhelming. Someone sent me the video of Berrios getting drafted and I was all "awwww kid, I love you already". I still get kinda teary-eyed when I watch this kid go from nervous to ecstatic to completely overwhelmed in the 45 seconds of the recording, when his life changed forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p-A5jDpHYk&list=FLjN4IaYShqEjUvmKzb1iy2w&index=2
Anyway, yeah, we're in the Cities! It'd be great to finally meet you & fam. My email is anterastilis at geemail - still using the same username as on LJ all those years ago.
Oh man. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. Go kid, go! I still want Meyer for the rotation, but I'll cheer for Berrios and look forward to his arrival too.
DeleteHere's link to The Great 2011 Upper Midwestern Pie Tasting article. They were not exactly kind in their review.
ReplyDeletehttp://heavytable.com/the-great-2011-heavy-table-twin-cities-pie-tasting/
RE: rich chocolate mousse
ReplyDeleteI'll bring you a recipe that I have made twice recently and served with raspberries on top.
RE: marshmallows
Has Sarah made the grasshopper pie (with creme de menthe & in a chocolate cookie crust)? If not, I will give you that recipe, too. Uses 32 marshmallows.
RE: choc layer on bottom
How about melted choc chips?
from C.
If I were to make the recipe again, I'd likely add some other kind of rich chocolaty layer, perhaps a ganache. That said, there are a lot of pies in the world I like more than marshmallow so I don't think I am likely to make it again. And no, Sarah hasn't made the grasshopper pie. We do enjoy annual Christmas grasshoppers though. That's been a great tradition.
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